Figure’s AI Robot, AI News, Cognition’s Devin, and the biggest AI bet yet! | E1915

Sunny joins Jason for a fun AI day! (00:00:00)

• Sunny and Jason make a bet on whether a humanoid robot will be available for purchase and delivered by January 1st, 2027.
• The bet involves the winner receiving the robot as a prize.
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• Groq is the new name for the merged company formed by Definitive Intelligence and Grok.
• Sunny is the General Manager leading the Groq Cloud and their commercial business.

Elon and open source Grok vs “Closed” AI. (00:02:08)

• Elon Musk's lawsuit with Closed AI (formerly Open AI) has been dropped.
• Open sourcing Grok is a significant move in the ongoing debate between open-source and closed-source AI.
• Grok's size makes it the largest open-sourced AI model, providing insights into the capabilities of large-scale AI systems.
• The model's size, however, limits its usability by the general community due to the need for extensive computational resources.
• Grok's release includes the model's weights but not the training data, which remains proprietary.
• Unlike Facebook's open-source model, Grok does not disclose the specific training data used.
• The debate over training data rights continues, with some arguing that any data on the open web can be freely used for training, while others emphasize intellectual property concerns.
• Companies are cautious about sharing training data to avoid potential legal issues related to copyrighted material.

The CTO from Open AI talking about their training data for Sora. (00:05:11)

• The CTO of OpenAI, when asked about the training data for their AI chatbot, Sora, gave vague answers, raising suspicions about her knowledge of the data used.
• The CTO's response was criticized for lacking transparency and potentially misleading the public, suggesting that she should have a comprehensive understanding of the technical and data aspects of the project.
• Elon Musk's involvement in Twitter and OpenAI's decision to open-source their chatbot, Ro, was widely praised as an "A+" move for promoting open-source thinking in the field of AI.
• OpenAI's core mission of advancing AI for the benefit of all humanity was highlighted in the context of open-sourcing Ro.
• Figure AI has created a real-world humanoid robot with two legs, two arms, and a head.
• The robot can understand and respond to voice commands.
• It can assess its surroundings and make decisions based on what it sees.
• For example, when asked for something edible on a table with plates, glasses, a dish rack, and an apple, the robot correctly identified the apple as the only edible item.
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Comparing the FIgure AI robot and what we have seen from Boston Dynamics and why this is impressive. (00:12:26)

• Figure's AI robot combines language model capabilities with movement and agility, unlike Boston Dynamics' robots that focused on physics and movement.
• The robot can reason over its surroundings, decide what a person should eat, and take action by handing the person the food.
• The robot uses speech-to-text, image recognition, and function calls to interact with the world.
• The robot has guardrails and prime directives to prevent it from harming humans, including a prompt that includes the directive to not hurt humans.
• Figure's AI robot's approach is similar to Tesla's FSD 12, which uses vision and learning by watching videos to navigate the world.

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Thinking about how humans learn and applying that to AI. (00:21:10)

• Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, emphasized the significance of watching TV as a means for humans to learn.
• The Figure robot is designed to learn from various sources, resembling Leeloo's learning process from a TV in The Fifth Element.
• Tesla's current full self-driving code based on conditional statements will become outdated as AI models advance.
• Figure AI is developing a general-purpose robot capable of performing diverse tasks, similar to Chat GPT and Gemini's general-purpose AI systems.
• While the Figure robot may not match the efficiency of specialized AI systems in specific tasks, it offers versatility across a broader range of applications.
• The Figure robot combines an LLM with a physical robot, but its AI implementation is basic and lacks the impressive capabilities of Boston Dynamics' robots.
• A challenge is proposed to demonstrate more advanced AI capabilities by having the robot create a salad from scratch using various ingredients and a knife.
• The potential of the AI robot is recognized, but improvements are needed, such as faster voice response.

The idea that robots may one day be 1:1 with humans. (00:28:28)

• Elon Musk predicts that there will be 10 billion humanoid robots on the planet within the next 30 years.
• Robots could become as common as cars, with everyone owning one.
• Robots could be more affordable than cars, costing around $10,000 to $20,000.
• Robots could perform various tasks, such as earning money for their owners, picking fruits, and shoveling snow.
• The combination of AI and robots could solve 90% of the world's problems.

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New bet alert! And it’s a major one. Sunny and JCal bet on how soon we will all have access to AI robots in our homes! (00:32:01)

• Figure's AI robot, equipped with a specially designed hand and computer vision, can precisely pick various vegetables and fruits in vertical farms.
• A bet has been made that by January 1st, 2027, a humanoid robot will be available for purchase in America for around $40K-$45K, comparable to the price of an entry-level Prius.
• The bettors will wager $10K each, with one taking the over and the other taking the under on the price of the robot.
• The robot's brain and sensors, called the Vision Pro, cost $20,000.
• The hosts propose a challenge for the robot to make a salad on-site, using high-quality cameras and makeup.

Introducing Devin, the first AI software engineer! (00:38:17)

• Devin is an AI software engineer developed by Cognition.
• The CEO of Cognition, Scott Wu, has a background in competitive coding.
• Cognition took the idea of Auto GPTs to the next level by giving Devin an IDE (integrated development environment) with access to code, a terminal, and a custom REPL.
• This allows Devin to have access to a wider range of tools and be more powerful.
• Cognition fine-tuned a model and achieved great scoring, breaking through the barrier of creating a website based on specific requirements.
• Devin has a chat bot, terminal, and web browser within its IDE, making it a powerful tool for web development.

The “maestro” concept when working with AI. (00:40:24)

• Specialized AI agents will perform various tasks, enabling entrepreneurs to become "Maestros" managing virtual AI teams.
• A new industry may emerge, offering human review and oversight of AI-generated work.
• A 10-person company utilizing AI effectively could potentially generate significant revenue and profits.
• Apple's research paper demonstrates advancements in multimodal LLM pre-training, showcasing logical reasoning and explanation capabilities.
• Bloomberg reports that Apple plans to launch an AI chatbot service similar to ChatGPT, integrated into its messaging app and powered by its own AI technology.

Hot news: Apple in talks to let Google Gemini power iPhone AI Features. (00:47:21)

• Google and Apple are discussing a potential partnership involving Google's Gemini AI model, primarily as a business development move to maintain their existing search partnership.
• Apple may license Gemini from Google to enhance iPhone features such as image correction, improved search functionality, or Siri's behavior.
• This partnership would allow Apple to retain its significant revenue stream from the search deal, while Google would gain access to valuable data to improve its AI ecosystem.
• The deal highlights the challenges faced by startups in competing with tech giants like Google and Apple, particularly in terms of infrastructure and scale.
• Regulatory scrutiny is expected due to the dominant market positions of Google and Apple in the smartphone industry.
• There is speculation that a language model similar to ChatGPT will be integrated into iPhone and Android smartphones in the future.